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The Road to Love: Dating, Cheating and Age Gaps
with Reality TV star Nick Viall

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Description
Is it really that wrong to text your ex happy birthday? The Bachelor ABC star, Nick Viall, says yes! Nick has had a tumultuous journey finding love in the public eye over the last 10 years and today he joins to share about his decade of growth and current outlook on love. Nick opens up about his worst breakup, overcoming being cheated on, feeling safe in relationships and celebrating his new found love, age-gaps and all.  
 

In This Episode

  • 0:00 Episode Tease: Being with people that want to be with us
  • 01:40 Hosts Jamey Heath and Liz Plank welcome guest host Chris Rivas and discuss the Man Enough mission
  • 03:24 Introducing Nick Viall
  • 06:35 When Was The Last Time You Didn’t Feel Man Enough
  • 07:55 Nick has a bone to pick with the Man Enough team / Giving men the space to feel insecure
  • 12:45 Repressed Emotions Fester Into Unhealthy Behaviors
  • 18:43 Nick’s Hardest Breakup
  • 20:04 Dating Apps Make Dating Harder
  • 25:18 Men Want to Feel Safe In Their Partnerships Too
  • 28:11 Masculinity on The Bachelor and The Bachelorette
  • 35:55 The Pain and Allure of Cheating
  • 48:22 Why You Shouldn’t Text Your Ex Happy Birthday
  • 53:55: Nick on Navigating the Age Gap in His Relationship
  • 01:06:10 What Does It Mean To Be Man Enough?

Episode Transcript

Select Nick Viall Quotations from the Episode

“I spent a lot of time getting to know my ego”
 
“Someone who doesn’t want to be with us is not our person…We should be with people who want to prioritize us.”
 
“I’ve definitely felt emasculated…We all have to have that space to be able to admit when we don’t feel enough. We are enough but sometimes we quite literally don’t feel that… I think it takes a lot of guts for a man to admit that.”
 
“I feel that you are doing the work in ways that I love hearing that men are doing…I hear a lot of accountability and ownership, emotional willingness to have conversations. So I think you’re exemplifying honestly some of the ways that men can learn from. I’m glad you’re doing the work you’re doing.” – Jamey Heath
About Nick Viall
Nick starred in the 21st season of ABC’s The Bachelor, and now hosts the People’s Choice nominated podcast, The Viall Files which explores dating in the modern age. Since the show’s inception in 2019, Nick’s no-BS, unfiltered advice on dating & relationships has amassed over 100 million downloads and a spot in AP’s Top 10 Podcasts.
 
Read Don’t Text Your Ex Happy Birthday
Following the success of The Viall Files, Nick released his first book, Don’t Text Your Ex Happy Birthday: And Other Advice on Love, Sex, and Dating, in October 2022. The dating advice book features snippets from his own personal dating experience while guiding readers through the complicated world of “situationships,” identifying red flags, and avoiding toxic relationships. The book is an honest, humorous, all-encompassing dating guide for a new generation.
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About the Man Enough Podcast

The Man Enough Podcast explores what it means to be a man today and how rigid gender roles have affected all people. The goal is to create a safe, open environment for a range of perspectives to come together and stay at the table, moving from systems and language that polarize and demonize men and masculinity, into those that invite all humans to participate and thrive in the world. Each episode engages in honest conversations with celebrities, thought leaders and change-makers, exploring topics such as relationships, body image, privilege, fatherhood, sex, success, mental health and so much more. 

THE HOSTS

Justin Baldoni is an actor, director, producer, entrepreneur and changemaker whose efforts are focused on creating impactful media and entertainment. Baldoni is the co-founder of Wayfarer Studios, an independent financial and production engine pioneering purpose-driven, multi-platform film and television productions that elevate and speak to the human spirit. He is also the founder of Wayfarer Foundation, a non-profit which seeks to change the way communities see and respond to unhoused populations. Learn more about his debut book, Man Enough: Undefining My Masculinity at manenough.com/books

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Liz Plank is an award-winning journalist, author of For the Love of Men: From Toxic to a More Mindful Masculinity, and the executive producer and host of several critically acclaimed digital series at Vox Media and NBC News. She’s the CEO of Liz Plank Productions and is a columnist for MSNBC and has been listed as one of Forbes’ 30 Under 30, Mediaite’s Most Influential in News Media, and Marie Claire’s Most Powerful Women, and was named one of the World’s Most Influential People in Gender Policy by Apolitical. She’s built a loyal following on numerous social media platforms, but her proudest accomplishment by far remains being blocked by the 45th president of the United States.

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Jamey Heath is a prolific and versatile songwriter, musician and producer, he has co-written and/or produced songs for many artists, including Andy Grammer, Idina Menzel, Solange, Chaka Khan, Rahsaan Patterson, Randy Jackson, Dionne Farris, Guy Sebastian, Tamia, Tevin Campbell, Shanice, Az Yet, Yasmeen, Jody Watley, Ray J, Changing Faces, Janet Jackson, Kenny Lattimore, Babyface, Eric Benet, Take 6, and many others. He has been a part of many multi platinum selling records and singles earning him two Grammy Nominations with one win for his work on Gladys Knight’s, “At Last” album.

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